Thursday, December 15, 2016

The Arthur Brisbane Child Treatment Center

The history of the Arthur Brisbane Child Treatment Center in Farmingdale, NJ goes back to the early 1900's. Mr. Brisbane was a well respected newspaper editor and journalist. Born in Buffalo, New York, he spent his entire career digging up stories and telling them through various well known outlets. In 1907, he purchased the deserted land that was once the Howell Ironworks to build his new dream home.

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 He also built a tuberculosis hospital for children known as the "Howell Preventorium" In the 1920's, after construction on his home was finished, Mr. Brisbane began restoring the old ironworks which dated back to the 1800's. Upon his passing in 1936 the land was again disused, but in 1944 it was donated to the state of New Jersey and it became Allaire State Park


Though it was originally meant to house U.S. military veterans, the Brisbane mansion would instead undergo renovations to become a psychiatric hospital. In 1946, the children's unit of nearby Marlboro State Hospital moved to the facility which operated as a satellite campus. However. Just one year later, the Arthur Brisbane Child Treatment Center became it's own separate entity. The new hospital was the first in the state specializing in the treatment of children with psychiatric issues.


The hospital origianlly operated mainly out of the mansion, but a large new school building was built in 1972. Not much else had been reported of the hospitals early history, but by the 1980's the state of adolescent psychiatric care in New Jersey was the subject of severe turmoil. In 1986, the Slocum V. Perselay litigation was filed, alleging the death of a minor at the Trenton facility stemmed from a culture of over-drugging and physical abuse rampant at developmental centers and psychiatric hospitals across the state. These patients, mostly children under the age of 18, were warehoused inside understaffed and overcrowded buildings. They were rarely allowed adequate time to recreate in fresh air, which only served to agitate the underlying conditions which brought them to treatment centers in the first place. The "State Plan for the Establishment of Regional Psychiatric Programs for Seriously Mentally Ill Children and Adolescents" designated the Brisbane Center as overflow for other nearby children's psych hospitals in 1987. The Brisbane Center now treated children ages 11 to 17 with "acute" psychiatric disorders. By 1988, the adolescent Unit at Trenton State Hospital closes, due to Slocum V. Perselay litigation.


In 1989, the Brisbane Center underwent a mandated evaluation. The results were depressing. Staff were observed intimidating patients on several occasions. Several children suffered injuries due to improperly implemented and outdated restraint devices and methods. The admissions ward, meant to hold 40 children, held roughly 80 in outdated conditions. There was no infirmary on the campus, only dormitories and a school. Patients were not separated based on the severity of their disorders, which led to a grim environment for those with mild disabilities. The separation of patients was not just a recommendation. It was a court order that was being blatantly ignored. Because of this, several violent altercations between patients were recorded. The overall consensus was that Brisbane should be closed like the unit in Trenton.


The formal recommendation to close the Brisbane Center came in 1990 by Dr. Robert M. Friedman. In addition to the list of complaints observed during the prior years evaluation, he described the hospital as not having an adequate layout for either a hospital or a group home type setting. He noted the state children's hospital system as being "over centralized and fragmented". He also pointed out that the conditions required to be met for admission were much more expensive to treat in home like settings, so the only option was to dump them in the terribly overcrowded hospitals. This contributed to many of the problems the hospitals were facing. The state admitted the issues with the facility and began their own management team for Brisbane..


A follow up investigation of the Brisbane Center in 1991 showed several areas of improvement. It seemed that the cries of advocates had not fallen on deaf ears. However, there were still several persistent problems as well. Brisbane was still responsible for both short term and long term care, on a campus that could barely support either properly. The hospital was still operating without a specific goal or mission. This contributed significantly to the mismanagement of the hospital.


The hospital was once again under fire in 1997, when an exit sign broke and leaked radioactive Tritium into a portion of the main building. The staff did not dispose of the sign properly, but rather threw it away with the regular medical waste, This was done intentionally despite frequent warnings from several veteran staff members. The director claimed that they were over budget on contamination cleanup and couldn't afford the proper disposal.


The rampant abuse projected on the patients at the hospital came to a head in the first few days of 1998, when a patient named Kelly Young was killed after being physically restrained by a staff member of the hospital. After making a phone call to a family member, Kelly became visibly upset. Nobody knows what was said on that phone call, but we do know this was the last time the family ever spoke to Kelly. After being denied another call, Kelly was even more upset. The head nurse left the room to get Kelly some medicine for menstrual cramps, and one of the two social workers had left to get dinner. This meant the only person available to try and calm Kelly down was a male social worker that was much larger than the young girl. He ordered Kelly to sit down, but in her emotional frenzy she was hesitant to do so. Instead of following the proper protocol, which involved calling for help and administering several methods of non violent intervention, Youth Worker Nelson Williams grabbed Kelly and immediately attempted to put her in the controversial "Basket Hold". He forced her to the ground, then dragged her back to the chair where she was sitting. Due to his sloppy execution of the hold, Kelly wasn't calming down, but rather struggling for her life. The second social worker returned, and he immediately called for backup. Before they could get there, however, Youth Worker Stoll grabbed the young girls legs while Nelson Williams restrained her. By the time backup arrived, Kelly had already lost so much oxygen during the struggle she began to turn blue. She was put on life support at a nearby hospital but was taken off and pronounced dead on January 5th, 1998. The staff was heavily criticized for ignoring proper protocol, but none of them were ever forced to be accountable for the murder. They even went so far as to tell the family that Kelly "choked on an object". The only thing that came of the incident was that Nelson Williams was fired several months later.


The "Basket Hold" was the go-to technique for forcing patients into compliance at Brisbane. The technique was supposed to be reserved for instances where the patient was an immediate harm to themselves or others around them. It was a last resort method for when all other measures failed. However, just a few years earlier, the facility was instructed to stop using mechanical restraints on the patients. Since the ban on mechanical restraints took away the staffs easiest option for control, the next easiest was forced submission through the basket hold. The State Department of Youth and Family Services received an influx of abuse reports from the facility in the late 1990's. Almost every instance was the result of the psychical restraint procedure applied by the staff. Even more chilling, it was observed on several occasions that the outbursts that landed the children in the basket hold were actually provoked by several staff members. They would bully the children, and then punish them for being upset by it.


Following the murder of Kelly Young, several changes were forced upon the small hospital. A new method of psychical restraint was mandated, called the "Handle & Care" hold. Staff was no longer, for any reason, allowed to use the basket hold. The staff was also no longer allowed to be verbally aggressive toward the patients. Finally, the hospital promised to hire over a dozen new workers, both orderlies and psychiatrists. However, the reports of abuse never completely went away. A few months after the Young incident a patient had their arm broken while being transported in the "Handle & Care" hold.


It wouldn't be long before the extensive deinstitutionalization movement occurring across the country would hit home for the troubled facility. The decision to close the Brisbane Center came about in the summer of 2004. It was acknowledged that although the center filled a critical need for the state, the staff refused to adapt the new mandates designed to keep patients safe and that the closure was in their best interests.


The Brisbane Center officially closed in 2005. The fourty patients that the center was still serving went to developmental centers and private home environments in some cases. The complex sat empty, but used as storage for a number of years. However, in late 2015, a news article ran about important files being left in an unsecured building on the property. This was a common practice in many vacant hospital buildings on the east coast. The abandoned Sanatorium in Passaic County had an entire forensic lab left behind, which included physical evidence and photos of hundreds of crimes. This was eventually all just tossed in a dumpster when the building was demolished. The Overbrook and Greystone hospitals also had record vaults with documents dating back to the 1800's.


While Mr. Brisbane would probably feel great dismay towards the tragedy that enfolded on the property that was once his dream home, I can't help but feel that he wouldn't want these stories forgotten as they have been. He would want everybody to know about it. We can look back on the history of the Brisbane Center and use it to improve conditions at our current psychiatric hospitals and developmental centers so these types of incidents never repeat themselves.



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  1. WooHoo banner day for me new postings!
    Sad story all too common in NJ where they seem to look for and find the worst of the worst of society to care for the least able to protect themselves.
    I was told once as a boy that this was on purpose to prevent them from abusing "normal" people by giving them victims no one cared about to abuse! Look up my postings in the Belleville Isolation Hospital on this site I posted a link to my story. It is mostly the fragments of memory that have returned as an adult since running in to a very similar bunch of scumbags where I live now out west.
    I hope those children can find justice and the peace that it can bring.

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    1. As always, thanks for the contribution. I too hope those subjected to terrible conditions in institutions can find peace. Not just here, but all across the country. As you know it's not an isolated issue.

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    2. I have a friend that was a patient there and we would like to get in touch with the writter of this article and like to have more written about this place. Tell stories, let me know its not over till these sick people are put ro justice for what they did to these children.
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    3. Im still trying to get my life back together after spending 5 years there i just cry at the thought

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    5. Ms Sarah Mathews what year were u there I was a patient there from 1990 to 1993 it still horrible just thinking about it . I remember telling my parents about it and they didn't believe that could be possible the way the staff would treat us !!

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    6. Hello writer.. I would really like to get in touch with you if I could. I was a patient from Feb 98 to Feb 99.. it was a bad year.. please reach out to me!! dragonwarrior83@yahoo.com

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    7. I live there be for it was very nice place I don't no what happened I am very heat about this place I would love them to open it back up again I would love to tell my story about when I live there I really would I love that place I won't to really tell how it really was like living there not bad at all

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    8. I was there to Carmella I was there forever 1991 1996 ..

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    9. I was a 17 year old patient there. The facilities were pure SHIT. I remember the black man who drove the van for us go fired and arrested for abusing (child fondling) patients. Mrs. Jones was the main coordinated superior. She could have been the spokes woman for "soul glo". I remember she drove a Hyundai sonata. I hated her and if o ever saw her car, a rock was going through the window. I grew to like her, although she was still a bitch. I also remember a Mr irvington. He was cool. I was ther was there in 2001. I was in music class for the WTC collapse. I'll never forget that. They did let us watch It. All the patients had major issues. It was a bad year but the place led me to where I'm at now. Doing great.

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  2. Would love to speak with the publisher of this article.
    I was a personal friend of the late Kelly Young..
    This is one of the best articles I've read regarding Brisbane..

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    1. I very much appreciate the kind words. As it stands this is probably the story I've most wanted to tell, as the incidents that occurred should never be forgotten. I actually wrote this article last year, but held off on posting it because I didn't want the building to get vandalized. It happened recently anyway though, so I figured it was time.

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    2. How can I get in touch with you?

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    3. Hi. I was a patient at ABCTC from 95-96. I was 15 years old I witnessed alot of physical as well as emotional abuse coming from the so called staff members as well as I was physically and emotional abused. Thinking back to when I went there till this day makes my stomach knot up. It was a horrible place. Most of the staff was very nasty towards us as patients. They would intentionally do things or say things to get us upset. I witnessed one girl who I was housed with get thrown down the stairs in A building. A few weeks later the same happened to me. I was upset so I went up to my room. Well you were not allowed up stairs during the day. So two staff members, Mr. Williams and Ms. Atkins came up stairs after me. I explained I was upset. But they insisted I go back down stairs. Do I began to walk towards the steps to go down. Well Mr Williams had my one are and Ms. Atkins had my other. Just as I was to go down the steps Mr.Williams gave me a shove and literally went flying down the steps. I began crying and they both accused me of throwing myself down the steps. I immediately went to the nurses station. I told her I wanted to call 911 and I can tell she knew what transpired but saw the fear in her eyes. But nothing ever became of that. This facility was absolutely a place of horror. And my heart goes out to all the children who suffered through this

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    7. My mom used to work there. So did my dad but he worked for human services police. And my mom was in the building hands on. I often wonder if she was apart of the abuse because I've heard so much of it. Always wanted to find someone and ask if they recall her.

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    8. I remember that day they called ms.Bailey to hush us on the unit up and Ray gamolidy had us on unit lock i saw my room in those pics

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  3. Thank you very much for this article . It was well written. I was a there from 81-83. I was there only due to neglect and abuse at home. The things that I experienced and witnessed there was pure evil.

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    1. I was there when it was for children only 1985 I went back when I was 11 I stayed to 1996 Carmella white

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    2. Call me please. 732-484-3644. I was in Turell, right behind Brisbane, was made to work for a $1 a day in Marlboro State Hospital for over 8 hrs a day, went to the gym at Brisbane until I saw a staff member abusing a young boy.

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  4. Me and some friends got into Brisbane and yes there are files stored in the main building. We all grabbed some and got out. Wont be going back due to some of the stuff written in the files. Place sounds terrible wasn;t aware how serious this was

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  5. I was a patient at Brisbane as a child. Glad it's closed.

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    1. i was there twice almost 3 yr total i was bad they use to beat me all the time i wish i cuda been more successful in my life but im not only thing i learned os to stay away from cops but now at 35 im left wit all the problems i have some times i wish i had leople to talk to people that were there and wojld understand me not sum doc that dont k ow sht god bless

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  11. What was your experience with the teachers and staff running the school?

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    2. I remember being paid $0.07 putting together sets of 20 Jagermeister cards as part of the class. Obviously exposing us to other things instead of learning the important things. We were slaves. If we didn't do what we were told we were restrained either by the basket hold or bye four five six point restraints and injected with medicine. School was year round and mandatory. They had this system of Junior one, Junior to, intermediate 3, 2, 1 and Senior two, one. Each rank up allowed you different privileges and allowed other kids to hold rank over the Lesser kids and allowing those seen your kids to determine punishment such as being locked in a room, or be forced to sit in a locker 4 hours on end. If you refused you would be restrained and once again injected to calm down.

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    3. The only one who believed me was bonnie tyler my teacher there

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    4. Loved Bonnie Tyler! She was a diamond in that hell hole for sure! I spent three years at Brisbane. People like Ms. Tyler brought hope into an otherwise hopeless situation.

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  12. I was at abctc in 1998 to 1999 it was horrible luckily I was heavily medicated with thorozine. I Remember being in the boys cottage and later on being transferred to a co-ed dorm

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    2. I tried calling this number but it goes to this strange this thing with no voicemail please contact I have plenty to tell

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  14. First and foremost, I feel sorry for the victims and my heart truly goes out to them in continued recovery and justice. But I do not feel sorry for anyone who has vandalized this site in the past three years alone and does not speak the truth about the site. It's a shame that this facility ever became a Child Treatment Center - PERIOD. That is NOT what it was originally donated for. Now it has such a negative connotation associated with it, something the Brisbane family is also likely a victim of. Moreover, the site has been utterly vandalized and destroyed in the past three years as a result of those "curious" to see "what's left." The house was gorgeous at one time. Look at it now in these pictures, compared to the black and white photo on top. If your grandfather donated 1,200 acres to the State for FREE, including your ancestral home so it could become part of something good, how would you feel? The State of New Jersey should be ashamed of itself on multiple levels. If it wasn't for Arthur Brisbane we would not have Allaire State Park or The Historic Village at Allaire. He was a philanthropist and editor who greatly impacted American history during his life time. He wrote about and championed for a "better society" in early 20th century America. He and his wife, Phoebe, have to be turning over in their graves over the nightmare that has become of their GIFT. The land that the Brisbane's donated at Allaire - in totality - is priceless. Lastly, please credit the source of the original black and white photograph accordingly. Its too bad that Arthur Brisbane wasn't able to donate his land-holdings at Allaire to the NATIONAL PARK SERVICE as he was trying to do through his friend Franklin D. Roosevelt. For those affected, I pray for your well-being and that you find peace and justice.

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    1. Apologies, the "Source" is credited via the link. I missed that. My bad. Sorry!!!

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  15. Do you recall names of any of the school personnel who used these techniques? There are teachers and other school personnel from brisbane still working in the state system

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  16. Being forced to be medicated with heavy anti phycotics like mylirill,haldol,thorazine etc..along with the constant bullying,intimidating , fear environment, blocks of time are simply erased from memory, but I remember Williams, Atkins, I remember a mr.holland or hollis..he always wore different Adidas and a kango..pretty big guy..but I remember him in the cottages around 86,87 time frame. Horrible, nightmare place. We were throw away kids and the state allowed its sanctioned torture with a blind eye.

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    1. I am sorry you sufferred. You were a child in need. Should have never happened. I do not know the names you mentioned.

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  17. I do not think any child that was there came out unscathed during that time. I really wish more would come forward. These stories need to be told. The atrocities are countless.

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  18. I was also a victim of Brisbane concentration camp my have been nothing but chaos and mental anguish since the ambulance dropped me off in the middle of the night march 17Th 1986 I was 8 years old. My name is Rasheedah McQUeen and I served 2 terms in that hell hole

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  20. Well written and expressed Brian I am the parent of Rasheedah McQueen thank you for stepping up also thank you for serving!

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  21. I was there late 93 until 18th birthday of feb94; i came from jamesburg juv prison; n i gotta tell ya i had a wonderful time there.. xmas there was presents under the tree for all of us; i was only allowed to go certain plces 4 fear of me running alway but i was allowed to go to the gymnasium with others to play basketball went 2 school there.. i was probably 2 of the only white kids in the cottage but got along with everyone there.. i only really remember 1 Counsler Mr T we called him.. i believe i was in cottage b.. i cant remember; but counselors wasnt bad at all 4 me or with anyone else 4 that matter from what i can recall.. there was maybe a couple times i seen a kick in the balls a patient might get but trust me was seldom it happened n most of the times kids did something to deserve it...I loved that place was much better then jail. wish i could find some of the kids i was in there with....

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    1. ur name nor ur face doesnt ring a bell.. what cottage were u in?

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    2. I too was there during 96-98.

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    1. Yo buddy slow up. i said 4 me it was great.. I had no clue people were being raped n beaten like ur saying. im only going by my experience in there. U r right it was def better then Jamesburg.. but even if i did know all that happened in that place What am i suppose to do Lie n say i was beaten there? I didnt see any body getting beaten and just so u know the kid that got kicked in the nutz was laughing afterwards.. never said it was Right but he did have it coming n he knew it. Not every staff member was Bad n not everyone was good. Maybe just maybe if they would of gotten the Bad seeds out n kept the good 1s in they could of saved that place. I say i was there for maybe 5 months there's alot of other cottages right? so maybe i was in a cottage with good staff. I dont no who was putting gifts under that tree but it sure was nice to see things under it. im trying to be as nice as i can beings what u just wrote makes me feel like i should of been alittle more sentimental to other people.. 4 that i DO Apologize to the Victoms. But Ill SAY IT AGAIN IN CAPS LOCKS FOR MR RETIRED POLICE OFFICER/FEDERAL AGENT/WHATEVER ELSE U CLAIM 2 BE! "4 THE STAFF THAT TRULY CARED AND HELP ME THANK U!" don't ever try n judge me for being honest i told u my experience. Sarah Matthews if u were in 1 of them cottages i said n went to the gym at nite rac.. im sure i bumped into u there.. but looking at ur picture ur face doesnt ring a bell nor does ur name how old were u at that time? maybe u were younger then i was n in a different cabin.got to remember it has been about 24yrs..

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    3. You are the most narssictic person I have ever seen on the Internet. GET OVER YOURSELF!

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    4. thank u Anonymous.. holy sheep shit Mr Brian Dean!i'll say it again I apologize to the people that was mistreated in Brisbane. but u Sir have a real Authority Problem. Thank you for ur services greatly Appreciate them. N thanks 4 showing ur true colors as to a person who def got into alot of trouble but def was in Brisbane for good reasons.. but Um on that note wont be sharing them with this asshole.. Wait! i mean "Mr important!" I hope everyone who was effected by all this can heal the best they can even U Mr Dean.. "I think u need it the most" Mr. Skull n bones. what the hell does that tell you about this guy.. Really! I say ur apart of some serious shit there dont u think? https://youtu.be/DD-JttocUzk

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    5. For Mr Dean
      Symptoms

      Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

      Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
      Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
      Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
      Exaggerate achievements and talents
      Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
      Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
      Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
      Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
      Take advantage of others to get what they want
      Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
      Be envious of others and believe others envy them
      Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
      Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

      At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

      Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
      Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
      React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
      Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
      Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
      Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
      Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation

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    6. MR Dean? I apologize if i offended u or belittled u def was not my intentions.

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  23. What's going on at Arthur Brisbane today October 24, 2017 I just saw about 20 cars waiting at the gate at 5:30 in the morning

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    2. The military had a base on the otherside by the tennis court

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    3. I was there also I was placed in basket holds until I couldn't breathe and my hair was pulled they had me over medicated and when the judge and dyfs came to a court hearing that was held for us they ordered the facility to adjust the dosage so I would be alert it was the worst Kelly was killed a couple months after I left I would not have wished ABCTC on anyone who was in need of help

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    4. I was there 1959/1964, has there been any class actions, against this institution, if yes what was the outcome, it was not a very good experience,for myself, actually it was a very traumatic period of my life

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  24. https://youtu.be/Z8xTgIIPR1o youtube vid inside n out

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  25. Anybody remember a Mr Sable in the mid 1970 that did some of the abuse?

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  26. Jimmy "The Peckery ", are you out there? RN

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  27. I was on the coed unit a few months fro. 97 and 98 with kelly. I wouldn't call myself a friend though I tried to look out for some of my peers who couldn't control themselves. I was 14 and learned real quick what staff were about and the so called nice staff where those who treated you like some form of a person. This place, meant to help did thr opposite. Staff would force us in our chairs and put shows like the price is right and if people spoke or got up without permission the quiet room visible in the next section was used as a power source regularly. One girl constantly undressed herself. Staff saw me as someone who could help and would have me try and get her clothes on. Otherwise she was always in that stupid room. Maria. I remember. Ms. Atkins. Nurse William.nurse Renee I remember so many staff members. Few stood up for what was right for us kids. I often wonder what has happened to people I've met there. I still have my goodbyebook. I hope everyone has learned to heal and move forward with their lives. Kelly's passing was a tradedy. I was on visit but I blamed myself for not being their to intervene. I do remember talk when I returned and they tried to couch this lifesaver story to us. Disgusting. Anyone around that time want to contact me it's allieluvslaila2014@gmail.com

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  28. I was there in 1975 and 1976. Mr Ricchitti was running the facility. Perry Neare was one of our counsellers. I believe he is a psychologist locally. I was 10 at the time and never saw or received any abuse. The schooling was so good I actually came out of there a grade ahead of where I should have been. We went on a lot of field trips and fished and sledded. It was an wake up call for me and my extremely bad behaviour. It was necessary for me and wouldn't have what I do today without it.

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    1. me, 73-75 AND I remember you Ken. Group 2. I have a soccer team photo with us in it. Stephenson/Lane were coaches. I have been in contact with a few people. You would remember me. Mr Near always made us run for punishment.

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  29. I was a patient at ABCTC from 94-95 and was heavily medicated and experienced tremendous amount of physical as well as mental abuse. I remember always struggling to stay awake from all the thorazine and other meds I was being given. I remember the staff constantly yelling, pushing, or hitting me to wake me up. I was there for severe depression and several suicide attempts, but I left in worse condition than I arrived in. As a young adult I was given ECT treatments to try to help block the flashbacks and nightmares I had from that place.

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  30. Was there from 98-99 co Ed dorm

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  31. I was there when I was in my teens they had a dance there at the main house I ended up kissing a girl at it and I was forcfully removed from the dance taken back to the boys cottage and the staff beat my ass in the bathroom then gave me a shot of thorzine knowing I was allergic to it I remember being threatened everyday by the staff the only good thing about the place was the music class at the school and the work shop that paid u 25 cents for every rubber grommet u turned right side In I hated that place they refused to let my family visit and refused to let me make calls to my family

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  32. Ken, I remember Mr Neare and Mr Richetti, Mr Kauffman and Mr Greenly, Miss Sullivan and Dr Ivey, Mr Morton and Mr Luker

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    1. Hi Dave. Funny how we still look for this place from our past.
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  33. I was a patient in this facility back in 1984. Extremely weird and spooky 2 year experience.

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  34. I was here along time ago was 11 to 12 years of age and yes alot of bad memory happen here was also abuse I can't believe alot of this went on most of the time I was so druged up I don't rember some things but I bet if I was hypnotize I would rember this is sad to here.

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  35. Don't know if any one rembers the group home that was called Phoebe's place on Brisbane grounds

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  36. I rember the rubber boots we worked on as a job

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  37. i was also a paitent there in 1985 i was beaten abused injured restrained drugged up had a piece of it all i recieved no help or treatments there then i was put into trenton phyc hospital same treatment beated restrained abused drugged up is there a lawyer that will take a law suit agunst the hospitals

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